Check out the figures

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  1. excellent article mr kirby.i see the city departments,police,fire etc,are submitting their budgets on feb.6 2014, per the added list you posted on the above article.how much do you want to bet we see even MORE costs abating unchecked.?how can the city of hamp be managed so haphazardly with no checks and balances to control depts.who overspend like the fire and police depts?they are like an old broken down car that keeps needing more money to repair it and keep it going.an eye opening article that still unfolding.i know youll be checking the feb 6 2014 meeting to see how much more money these depts will waste-i mean want.

  2. I also noticed this chart when the Mayor gave his presentation and I was surprised that no one asked him to give dollar amounts, and the mayor hurried up and blew past that slide. The only Councilor we had that dared to question spending (Gene Tacy, love him or not) found himself ganged up on and run out of office. That’s all the proof I need to know whether anything will ever change in this City.

  3. wonder what the costs are for-is it new vehicles,salaries,upkeep and maintenance of the buildings-police and fire-upkeep on vehicled and maintenance for police and fire?or new cars,new items etc.its very vague because it doesnt directly detail what the costs are really for.meaning detailing the line items-so much for this-say cars-so much for that say gas insurance etc.hard to get a handle on what cots keep escalating in details.they cut the school dept-they cyt the dpw-water dept but are raising taxes on the stormwater fees and such.more than out of control.all this goes thru mayor snarkywicz and he seems to be saying-ok pay this ok pay that while there is not one cost cutting measure indicating any stop to this follish practice of over spending considerabley in these depts.an dlook at the police cheifs salary-145,00.00.the fire cheifs about the same.while th etaxpayers are milked dry with overides.im glad mr kirbys looking ino this subject.i want to know more mike:)

    1. Exact and itemized spreadsheets from those depts should be demanded.. And neither of those chief’s are residents of noho…

    2. The mayor also seemed to want to compare Northampton with towns like Longmeadow to show how much lower our taxes are. The gist of his argument is, “Don’t complain about our taxes because our tax rate is low and our house prices are pretty high when you compare us to places like Longmeadow!” So, what, we should continue to raise taxes willy-nilly and not examine how we spend? That’s ludicrous in a budget of our size. We can make sensible cuts that make our city more efficient and don’t cripple services — we just need someone with political cajones to propose them.

      I think such town-to-town comparisons divert attention to how we in Northampton spend money and raise revenue. Isn’t that the whole idea of the city’s budget presentation? As it is, it certainly seems pretty one-sided, with all the focus on how to get more money (although Smith is not expected to pay more, despite the mayor’s promise during the override debate to negotiate with them to pay up — keep holding your breath, folks) and no attention on how to cut expenses. Isn’t a balanced approach to budgeting including both necessary? That’s what we all have to do in our households, so why not in City Hall?

      In addition, in the presentation, the mayor doesn’t give all the information to even make the comparisons he puts forward between towns meaningful. A better way to look at comparing the towns and their affordability is to calculate taxes compared to median household income. In this respect, Longmeadow — LONGMEADOW — comes out ahead.
      In 2011, the median household income in Longmeadow was more than double that of Northampton — $98,100 in Longmeadow compared to $48,900 in Northampton. But the average tax bills of the two towns are not that far apart — $7,560 in Longmeadow vs. $4,600 in Northampton.

      So in effect the average homeowner/wage-earner in Longmeadow actually pays a lower percentage of their income on taxes than we do in Northampton — 7.7% in Longmeadow vs. 9.4% in Northampton. Strange, I didn’t see that slide in the mayor’s talk.

      I guess someone could torture a statistic long enough to show that Longmeadow is more affordable than Northampton. But you wouldn’t ever hear the mayor say that, I’m sure.

    3. totally agree.the real funny thing going into the next two weeks will be mayor narks look of shock when the gaming commission denies northampton surrounding community status flat out.hes been counting on getting a piece of the surrounding community pie,but northampton wont even get a crumb.funny how they can say the casino will take sooo much money and jobs away from northampton-the SOLE destination in the pioneer valley-ahem.but rampant overspending in the police and fire depts are already doing what the casinos will never do-draining the life blood-taxpayers hard earned money from overides tax increases etc,new fees- at such a fast rate now monthly-as mike kirby as found out-not yearly!no way hamp will be getting that momey from the gaming commission.but also the mayors showing the people of hamp that he’ll spend, spend, spend,but then suggest hes a great mayor for balancing the budget.rose colored glasses,mayor dave?

    4. mike -read this a few minutes ago on northamptons main website-MOODYS ASSIGNS Aa2RATING TO HAMP2.5 MILLION GOBONDS-ON 49,4 MILLION IN PARITY BONDS.STRENGTHS-ABOUT HAMP-DIVERSE TAX BASE.TREND OF INCREASED RESERVE LEVELS.RECENT APPROVAL OF PROP 2/12 OVERIDE.CHALLENGES-AKA -HAMPS WEAKNESSES BY MOODYS-LIMITED FINANCIAL FLEXIBILITY.RISING COSTS OF LONG TERM LIABILITIES.MOODYS ASKS-WHAT COULD MAKE HAMPS RATING GO DOWN?-LACK OF STRUCTURALLY BALANCED BUDGETS AND OPERATIONS-LACK OF CONTINUING IMPROVEMENT IN FINANCIAL POSITIONING AND ADHERENCE TO CONTROLLING COST OVERRUNS IN SOME DEPTS BUDGETS.THIS IS STRAIGHT FROM MOODYS ASSESSMENT OF HOW HAMP ADHERES,MANAGES,CONTROLS ITS BUDGETS.VERY VERY INTERESTING.LOOKS LIKE MOODYS HITS THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.IF HAMP KEEPS THIS UP ITLL BE A PROP 2 OVERRIDE VERY SINGLE YEAR!

  4. Noho doesn’t deserve a dime from the gaming commission. Noho is the.most mis managed city in the state… uses all this grant money to build more bike paths and athletic fields but then they can’t take care of what they already have!.case.in point is Ellerbrook field…it’s a dump now…fields are destroyed by grubs. What do u think all those fields on meadow St are gonna.look like inside of 2 yrs?? Dpw staff is already cut – which apparently is why no.potholes are ever filled – and they won’t hire more in that dept bc all tje.city money goes to the pd and fd and school dept – but watch, another override will be coming….u heard it here first. City council is a.non entity in the.city…what a fools.show last.night…course when the.public comment is dominated by speakers saying that they Love their vagina, that tells u all u need to.know about the.city. what a.joke

    1. its such a greedy money grab to think theyll be approved by the gaming commision.the sole destination in the pioneer valley????i laughed reading that.growing up for 60 years in northampton from 1949 till now-those days in hamp-50’s ,60s, 70s-we had jobs,manufacturing,good rents,good incomes,mayors whod balance their budgets and control spending,police and fire depts whod never go over their budgets double like what were seing on those new charts.we had good.leaders in city hall,police,fire depts.northampton is now the product of sloppy inept leaders,horrible mismanagement.richie richs with spendaholic attitudes.the towns imploded from all the uber rich and exttremely high prices and excesses.the city should be ashamed of itself for what they are doing with taxpayers monies-spending exorbitantly and not have any control or regard for maintaining balanced budgets.the city now is a product of many years of wasteful spending on the wrong things isntead of the right things-roads,infrastructure.streets,water and sewage etc.like a bunch of spendaholics who cant stop the spending till the credit cards are maxed out.cant wait to see the mayors face when the gaming commission gives northampton a big fat”NO” on the surrounding community money issue!

    2. To the anonymous above, what a great comment. You need to get down to the next council meeting, keep calm and just read what you wrote here. Show them that not everyone who disagrees with them can be portrayed as some nut, which is what I think most of them think.

      I think you’re right, there’s just some kind of cultural change today in places like Northampton that excuses mediocrity, the “that will do mentality.” People get paid six figures just for showing up. No one pushes themselves because no one is pushing them. It goes straight down the line.

      People don’t know how to practice any self control anymore, and it shows in how they manage money too. We have too many greedy entitled people chasing dollars, building ridiculously large houses, driving around in luxury vehicles that look like ranch houses on wheels. And they have the gall to call themselves progressives, writing letters to the Gazette trying to outdo one another to see who is the most socially conscious. These people are delusional.

      And now people in municipal jobs want what they have too. There’s too much keeping up with the Joneses in this place. When does it end? There used to be pride in being fiscally sober and only having what you absolutely need. Today, everyone’s got a little too much piggery in them. Is it any wonder this city can’t figure out how to make do with the money they have without continually racking up charges on our credit cards? Narkewicz deserves a lot of the blame. After the last mayor, he had an opportunity to turn off the spigot, the lack of self control, and put some restraint on ourselves. Instead he takes the easy way out and just raises more taxes and spends like a drunken sailor himself. It’s shameful.

  5. There is absolutely no reason for anyone in this city to push for better fiscal management because there is no political price to be paid for blowing budgets and proposing overrides. Until the vagina lovers, bike path evangelists, Yes!men and women, sidewalk bench warriors, Smith idolators, and other special interest fringe dwellers open up their eyes, we’re screwed in Northampton.

    1. The Fire Dept costs are rising, but they also bring in a substantial amount amount of cash through EMS which go directly into the general fund. You need to offset the increase by the money comming in to get a true picture.

  6. THE GAMING COMMISSION THREW OUT HAMPS REQUEST FOR “SURROUNDING COMMUNITY STAUS”5-0!THE LAWYER FOR HAMP SAID IT COST 26,000DOLLARS FOR LAWYERS COSTS,AND ANOTHER 18,000 DOLLARS FOR THE CAMOIN REPORT.OVER 40,000 DOLLARS IN TAXPAYERS MONIES WASTED ON A FUTILE ATTEMPT TO SUCK UP TO MGM.MIKE,YOU ARE SOO RIGHT ABOUT THE UNCONTROLLED SPENDING IN NORTHAMPTON.TAXPAYERS BLOOD MUST BE BOILING KNOWING 40 GRAND OF THEIR MONIES HAVE BEEN THROWN AWAY AGAIN ON LAWYERS, CONSULTANTS ETC.THE GAMING COMMISSSION ALSO CITED NORTHAMPTONS LAWYERS AND THE CAMOIN REPORT AS ONE SIDED,VAUGE,ILLOGICAL AND VERY VERY WEAK.THE LAWYERS FROM HAMP ASKED IF THEY COULD GET THE GAMING COMMISSION TO PAY THEM BACK FOR THE MONIES THEY SPENT ON LAWYERS AND THE REPORT.THE LAWYER GOT A FLAT”NO” FOR ANY REIMBURSEMENT.HOW CAN OUR CITY KEEP BEING RUN INTO THE GROUND FINANCIALLY LIKE THIS??WHENS IT GOING TO STOP?

  7. i saw the live covergae of the gaming commission too.the representative for northampton looked like he was going to cry baby tears when the gaming commission said”no”to northampton being reimbursed the $40,000 they spent-i mean wasted-on the camoin reprt and the lawyers and consultants fees-ouch!!!

  8. WORD AROUND TOWN IS THAT ERIC SUHER IS IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH MGM RESORTS MUSIC VENUE FOR SPRINGFIELD TO BE A MAIN BOOKER AND FINDER OF MANY BANDS FOR THEIR MUSVENUES THERE.HES BEEN IN TALKS WITH THEM FOR A FEW MONTHS AND IT LOOKS VERY LUCRATIVE FOR HIM AND FOR THEM.HELL BE PROFITING BIGTIME WITH HIS CONNECTIONS FOR MGM.WHERE NARKIEWICZ FAILED-SUHERS WINNING FINANCIALLY BIGTIME.

  9. Current mayor is in way over his head. The continued practice of over spending in this city is way past the point of being a serious issue. Good for suher…hope he pulls all his businesses and interests out of nhampton.

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